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Chapter 34

Post by Dark-san on Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:01 pm

FC needed a miracle to pull through this match! 3-2 down and with the clocking ticking fast! Will they lose this match and forever be dumped out of the School representative tournament? Or will instead a saviour appears and produce that miracle? Which ending will it be? The former or the latter?

Catch it all with us! Out in IRC, DDL to follow up later...
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:55 pm

I SHIP ODA/MAKO

Errr........

I dunno...

I think Kim from Tsujidou is WAY hot... lol... but he's a heterosexual.

But seriously.

Hmmm............

Araki/Mako?

Mako/anybody?

Kurebayashi/random girl in one night stand?

Lee/ball? (You'll meet Lee later - he's a goalie)

Kaoru/Takase would be WAY awkward and eww... kinda hard to think about LOL.
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:15 pm

since this is a shounen manga im 100% sure that fc will win in the end the only question how, thats what we want to know Very Happy
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Sylx on Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:39 pm

we'll know soon Very Happy

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:38 pm

how indeed ^^

Actually Kakeru does an amazing
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:04 am

wow incredible play between kakeru and araki its like ronaldinho and ronaldo in there primes Very Happy

but this chaps made me think about which foot is kakerus natural one, the natural foot is one that is stronger and it seems he was a lefty originally probably cause of that trauma from his childhood he stopped using it but still all this time people thought he was right footed if he never stoped using his left foot who knows how the story would have been Question
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:35 am

if im not wrong, with suguru's heart, kakeru's left is strong but is just uncontrollable, right? so that means he can play with his left now but all he needs to do is train it..?

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:23 am

the heart transplant only gave kakeru some of his brothers playing instincts but that dsnt mean his left foot will instantly power up and even if hes been training to reuse his left foot over the year his right should still be stronger if it was his dominant foot
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Sylx on Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:56 am

you're right, kaka ^^

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:33 pm

yes kaka is right ^^
I do believe kakeru's left was always his stronger side.

from a 'scientific' (as scientific as a manga can get ahahaha) point of view the heart has muscle memory so it sometimes influences Kakeru's muscles to act a certain way, hence bringing over some of suguru's instincts and bla bla bla.
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:41 pm

lol if a manga didnt have a sense of reality in it then it would be plain crazy

this sort of thing has reportely happened before people who have had organs donated to them sometimes have small changes such as habits, intrests, taste and can do things they couldnt before thats were the theory of blood memory comes from but its another thing science cant confirm we just have to use our own heads abit, but its kindof disapointing that they made it look like kakeru is helpless with out his brother in the literal sense if they make it that he depends completly on his brother then tht would be 1 of the worst storylines this could take hope to god that dsnt happen No
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:50 pm

trust me, it doesn't ^^

haha actually i remember reading about something like that, like this woman got a heart transplant and suddenly started craving for hamburgers and doing manly things, this norwegian lady got a transplant and suddenly woke up with a german accent... etc. XD
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:53 pm

wow. then let's ask:
if you were dying or something, would you want a heart transplant or just die? :3

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:01 am

Lol.. I really don't know :O

I mean I wouldn't exactly be in the right frame of mind to go 'oh that was the heart of some random MAN, i don't want to adopt manly habits' or something. I'd probably be obsessed with staying alive.
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:04 am

lol what if you didn't get a MAN but a little kid? O__O;

i would rather die either way T__T;
but it's not really your choice. you can't say anything to object. your parents or whatever are the ones deciding for you. you just have to go with the flow. either accept it or don't. die or live.

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:06 am

it wouldn't fit =P
kid's body is still growing~ Maybe a teen works.

technically you can write a legal document stipulating that you want to die if such a situation occurs, but people will probably try to save you anyway. either that or people will sue the doctor that let you die and cause a lot of trouble.
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:30 am

lol sei only people who are 18 or above and hold donar cards will have there organs taken out after death to be used for surgerys only way you end up with a kids organ is if you were in critical condition and needed an organ asap and a kid with a healthy organ you needed past away near you but the parents of the kid would have to be asked before they took it so little chance fo that happening it happened to kakeru cause his parents didnt want to lose both there sons
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:02 am

well suguru died anyway, since you cant live without a heart. but.. if i remember correctly, suguru is older.. er. nevermind ^^

i dont really get these stuff and i dont really mind if i die because my heart is supposedly.. dead or cut through or whatever.. cuz i have lived my days nicely, with reading manga, talking to my friends, and whatnot ^^

but if my parents decide to give a heart transplant, then, fine. but i might not be able to enjoy what i used to do in my previous life because the heart that i received disobeys me.

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:34 pm

The question is, is the heart controlling you or are you controlling the heart? lol

We'll never know... each case is different, and there are far too little cases to even form scientific hypotheses.

Suguru was 15 XD But yea, his parents were like SAVE MY SON!!!!!11
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:45 am

i think it's the heart that is controlling you. you can't control your heart, only if you put pressure on it. when your heart stops beating, you can't do anything to make it continue beating. but if it's the opposite way, then okay Razz

that's what i thought! kaka said 18 and up and whatnot, so, im like: wasn't suguru 15 or something? parents are seriously.. well.. serious.. T__T; it's like, you see the light. then you decide, "should i go? or should i not?" but then when you decide you should go, your PARENTS come barging in and saving your life. i wonder if you can sue your doctor/surgeon for saving you when you wanted to die?

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Post by kaka90 on Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:37 am

kouri the heart can give you its original owners traits but it cant control you, a person is who her/she is by there personality that exists in that your own brain your memories exist in all parts of your body caused its something that is experienced and experience is sharewd through the body and mind, the mos i think can happen is that a persons memories and feelings that flow through there body can cause a change in the person that receives something of them basically there personalty might change not to match the previous person but to be similar to it while remaining itself.

e.g. say i recieved a heart from a muderer and i was normally a calm and pasifist person then i may afterwards start showing a desire to kill based on the feelings of the guy who i got the organ of, if he hated certain people then i may begin to hate them or if he was a sadist then i may end up as one hobbies, experiences and feelings have all been reportedly been inherited by recipents of organ donars from there donars they normally seek out the familys of there donars to try and understand what there where like, but i dnt think this means that the person who gave an organ will sudenly be reborn in the mind of the reciever at most they will be like them in someway, since kakeru loves football and had the same ambition as his brother theres not much changes in that and his family have said they shared tastes so that cant be judged the only sign of this has been kakerus increase in confidence and his switch in play styles during his last match for his jr high school, basically the this manga may lead to kakeru being a perfect player with his and brothers skills together, kakeru is an explosive striker type player basically someone who uses his speed a his main weapon and has the sense to predict the balls movements which is something that professional players in real life can do e.g. micheal owen, ruud van nisteroy are 2 strikers who can do that his technique is good capable of shooting long or short aswell as controling the ball to some extent his dribbles are fast but not good breaking through defences on his own and theres the problem of his weakness that was discovered by seven, araki and oda iv got my suspisions of what that is but i wont say it yet, now his brother was great at breaking through defences with his dribbles and had 1st rate ball control if i had to compare what iv seen of suguru to any player in real life based on his play id say hes like zidane, his dribbles and skill at breaking defences alone will benefit kakeru who needs others others to help do so as a striker that is weakness
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by SEi on Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:29 am

woahs. that's a lot to read.. er..

-- after two minutes:

O__O; okayy. you seem to know a lot about this ^^;

and that's what i kinda said. it's also your parent's fault or whoever decided the heart donor, that you turned into that kind of person, right? Razz

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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:14 pm

yep but since kakeru was similar to his brother only good changes are accuring to him so in a way eh could be glad he got his brothers heart and not some phycho killers cheers
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by Kouri-chan on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:23 pm

lol kaka I know, just saying =) I think it's the question the manga is trying to put forward.
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Re: Chapter 34

Post by kaka90 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:11 am

yep at first say the heart transplant thing and how kakeru changed i thought there were gona make it so that kakerus success omes from his brother and not his own abilitys but it looks like there trying to make kakeru develop into the best player and making it so that his skills come from himself and his brother there making a protagonist who is flawed yet perfect rather than someone who is superhumanly good e.g. tsubasa from captain tsubasa is like that people nowadays tend to make characters with some faults or situations that are tragic or something guess thats there way of trying to appeal to the idea that people arent perfect and things like this are possible rather than complete fanatical stuff that can never be done
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